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	<title>Comments on: Probing the deafening silence around S4C’s crisis</title>
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		<title>By: Ivor Edwards</title>
		<link>http://www.clickonwales.org/2010/07/probing-the-deafening-silence-around-s4c%e2%80%99s-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivor Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 20:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friends working in S4C told me that - 
&quot;She has something of the night about her&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friends working in S4C told me that &#8211;<br />
&#8220;She has something of the night about her&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ivor Edwards</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ivor Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 21:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If S4C’s budget is going to be cut – then the BBC MUST step in to the breach.

Surely if we believe that broadcasting is too precious a flower to allow it to be subjected completely to the rigours of the free market (the very reason d’etre for the contiunued existance of the BBC) then the Corporation which even its present DG Mark Thompson described as ‘ wallowing in a jacuzzi of cash’, must commission more programming from the independent production sector in Wales to make up for any loss from the direct grant to S4C.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/feb/08/luke-johnson-bbc

We have all seen Geraint Talfan’s work on the Corporation current level of spending in Wales, so let’s widen this debate to include rectifying those issue.

Clearly market failure exists with regard to making programmes in Welsh, and the time has come for ‘Auntie’ to stump up some ‘dosh’ to help out – in fact it would help politicians better understand her role in the new digital environment.

Please no more anti-Welsh remarks about the jobs going to Welsh speakers only – it only harms the thousands who don’t speak the Language, but who are employed because of it – they will lose out when the cuts come. Only S4C broadcasts in Welsh the other 300 odd on my Sky box are whatever. The anti-Welsh element in this country needs to reflect on the fact that before S4C existed very few were employed in television production sector this side of the Severn Bridge – if the channel is castrated then it’s back to square one.

London will still enjoy its ‘Jacuzzi’ of broadcasting cash and the champagne swilling excesses of its senior members of staff. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jul/12/bbc-drinks-expenses-freedom-information.

In passing as well, the likes of Radio 3 costs far more per capita to service its ‘privileged’ minority audience, than S4C ever did.

The BBC is pushing out the private sector in far too many places at the moment, where NO MARKET FAILURE EXISTS – a decision to spend some of that money in Wales supporting employment would garner unanimous political support – ask the Murdoch’s – a family with friends in very high Tory places.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/6107233/James-Murdoch-targets-BBC-land-grabbing.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If S4C’s budget is going to be cut – then the BBC MUST step in to the breach.</p>
<p>Surely if we believe that broadcasting is too precious a flower to allow it to be subjected completely to the rigours of the free market (the very reason d’etre for the contiunued existance of the BBC) then the Corporation which even its present DG Mark Thompson described as ‘ wallowing in a jacuzzi of cash’, must commission more programming from the independent production sector in Wales to make up for any loss from the direct grant to S4C.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/feb/08/luke-johnson-bbc" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/feb/08/luke-johnson-bbc</a></p>
<p>We have all seen Geraint Talfan’s work on the Corporation current level of spending in Wales, so let’s widen this debate to include rectifying those issue.</p>
<p>Clearly market failure exists with regard to making programmes in Welsh, and the time has come for ‘Auntie’ to stump up some ‘dosh’ to help out – in fact it would help politicians better understand her role in the new digital environment.</p>
<p>Please no more anti-Welsh remarks about the jobs going to Welsh speakers only – it only harms the thousands who don’t speak the Language, but who are employed because of it – they will lose out when the cuts come. Only S4C broadcasts in Welsh the other 300 odd on my Sky box are whatever. The anti-Welsh element in this country needs to reflect on the fact that before S4C existed very few were employed in television production sector this side of the Severn Bridge – if the channel is castrated then it’s back to square one.</p>
<p>London will still enjoy its ‘Jacuzzi’ of broadcasting cash and the champagne swilling excesses of its senior members of staff. <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jul/12/bbc-drinks-expenses-freedom-information" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jul/12/bbc-drinks-expenses-freedom-information</a>.</p>
<p>In passing as well, the likes of Radio 3 costs far more per capita to service its ‘privileged’ minority audience, than S4C ever did.</p>
<p>The BBC is pushing out the private sector in far too many places at the moment, where NO MARKET FAILURE EXISTS – a decision to spend some of that money in Wales supporting employment would garner unanimous political support – ask the Murdoch’s – a family with friends in very high Tory places.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/6107233/James-Murdoch-targets-BBC-land-grabbing.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/6107233/James-Murdoch-targets-BBC-land-grabbing.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dylan Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.clickonwales.org/2010/07/probing-the-deafening-silence-around-s4c%e2%80%99s-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1202</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 17:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think certain people in the ‘London’ broadcasting establishment need to forget about the speck of sawdust in S4C’s eye and pay more attention to the plank in your own eye?

Have you seen the expenses for the director of Ofcom Wales published here :-

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/40407/response/104017/attach/6/Doc3.pdf

Enough to make a moat owning Tory backbench knight of the shire blush !

Expenses Rhodri Williams last there years £21 248 a year £28 186 a year and £10 703 this year !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think certain people in the ‘London’ broadcasting establishment need to forget about the speck of sawdust in S4C’s eye and pay more attention to the plank in your own eye?</p>
<p>Have you seen the expenses for the director of Ofcom Wales published here :-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/40407/response/104017/attach/6/Doc3.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/40407/response/104017/attach/6/Doc3.pdf</a></p>
<p>Enough to make a moat owning Tory backbench knight of the shire blush !</p>
<p>Expenses Rhodri Williams last there years £21 248 a year £28 186 a year and £10 703 this year !</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.clickonwales.org/2010/07/probing-the-deafening-silence-around-s4c%e2%80%99s-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1184</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 07:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Walter stands down in three months - Arwel Elis Owen takes his place, Betsan Powys becomes the new Chief Exec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Walter stands down in three months &#8211; Arwel Elis Owen takes his place, Betsan Powys becomes the new Chief Exec.</p>
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		<title>By: Emlyn Uwch Cych</title>
		<link>http://www.clickonwales.org/2010/07/probing-the-deafening-silence-around-s4c%e2%80%99s-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>Emlyn Uwch Cych</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S4C has seriously narrowed its programming output in recent years. News and current affairs are still fairly strong, but &quot;events&quot; and sports have far too much exposure. Both Cyw and Stwnsh formats work well, but the regular schedule is now packed with superficial concerts and lightweight documentaries of a dubious quality (all repeated ad infinitum, of course).

I looked at this week&#039;s schedule. The sole drama offering is the old work horse, Pobl y Cwm. Nothing else. At all. No series, or films, or one offs, or costume dramas. Not even repeats!Nothing of any length whatsoever. Dim byd o gwbl.

Whatever happened to comedy on S4C? Sit-coms? Satire? Someone should find out if there was more drama and comedy in Welsh on the BBC and HTV prior to S4C&#039;s advent? I somehow suspect there was.

I don&#039;t know if Iona Jones has trained at the Bland School of (Non-)Creativity, but I sincerly hope that her replacement Chief Exec recruits some serious creative talent. If there&#039;ll be any money left in the pot, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S4C has seriously narrowed its programming output in recent years. News and current affairs are still fairly strong, but &#8220;events&#8221; and sports have far too much exposure. Both Cyw and Stwnsh formats work well, but the regular schedule is now packed with superficial concerts and lightweight documentaries of a dubious quality (all repeated ad infinitum, of course).</p>
<p>I looked at this week&#8217;s schedule. The sole drama offering is the old work horse, Pobl y Cwm. Nothing else. At all. No series, or films, or one offs, or costume dramas. Not even repeats!Nothing of any length whatsoever. Dim byd o gwbl.</p>
<p>Whatever happened to comedy on S4C? Sit-coms? Satire? Someone should find out if there was more drama and comedy in Welsh on the BBC and HTV prior to S4C&#8217;s advent? I somehow suspect there was.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if Iona Jones has trained at the Bland School of (Non-)Creativity, but I sincerly hope that her replacement Chief Exec recruits some serious creative talent. If there&#8217;ll be any money left in the pot, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: jack james</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teledu Cymru, with integrity, faced the commercial realities of Welsh Language broadcasting to the West and North of Wales. It went bust. 
S4C has survived, without dignity, by living on benefits.
Should the Welsh stand on their feet, or should they sit back and accept handouts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teledu Cymru, with integrity, faced the commercial realities of Welsh Language broadcasting to the West and North of Wales. It went bust.<br />
S4C has survived, without dignity, by living on benefits.<br />
Should the Welsh stand on their feet, or should they sit back and accept handouts?</p>
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